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The Spirit Underground:

Conversations on Liberation Podcast

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Where love and truth intersect.

The Spirit Underground podcast features dynamic discussions involving plant medicine, Black liberation theology, collective healing, radical growth, white supremacy, social justice, and so much more.

Join us for sometimes difficult, always enlightening conversations.

MEET YOUR HOSTS

Spring Washam

Spring Washam is a dharma teacher, author, and spiritual rebel whose work lives at the intersection of mindfulness, healing, and social justice. Based in Atlanta Georgia, she’s considered a pioneer in bringing meditation practices to diverse communities and creating spaces where transformation is both radical and heart centered.

She’s the author of two powerful books: A Fierce Heart: Finding Strength, Courage and Wisdom in Any Moment and The Spirit of Harriet Tubman: Awakening from the Underground a blend of memoir, mysticism, and liberation theology.

Spring is a founding teacher at the East Bay Meditation Center, a community built on inclusivity, activism, and love. She also teaches at Spirit Rock Meditation Center, where her offerings weave together Insight meditation, Buddhist philosophy, and fierce compassion.

Lama Rod Owens

Known as the Black Buddhist Southern Queen—and a highly sought-after Buddhist minister, author, activist, yoga instructor, and authorized Lama in the Kagyu School of Tibetan Buddhism—Lama Rod Owens is an international influencer.

He has a Master of Divinity degree in Buddhist Studies from Harvard Divinity School, focusing on the intersection of social change, identity, and spiritual practice.

Lama Rod is the author of Love and Rage: The Path of Liberation Through Anger and co-author of Radical Dharma: Talking Race, Love, and Liberation.

Applauded for his mastery in balancing weighty topics with a sense of lightness while still speaking truth to power, this Queen has been featured by CNN, Good Moring America, BBC, The Washington Post, PBS, NPR, Ebony, and more.

In 2018, Lama Rod co-founded Bhumisparsha, a spiritual community with a mission of making tantra accessible and inclusive for North American practitioners. He’s also the co-founder of Dharma Queens, a series of conversations on Instagram Live with sister sadada, to help people get freer faster. His teachings center on freedom, self-expression, and radical self-care.

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